16 Sep 2009
First of all thanks to all those who read my previous post on my anguish over the food battle ‘under the tree’. Also advance thanks to all those who successfully complete reading this detailed post.
Tharini asked me the dreaded ‘How?’ question. I was dreading this because it was quite vague in my own head. For the past ten days, I have been trying to crystallize the ideas in my head. Hopefully this post where I will be putting things in print will help me process my thoughts.
I believe introspection is the first step towards a solution in any problem. Because, in many situations our reactions are a direct consequence of the believes, values, judgements and labels that are embedded in our subconscious. So when we know what we are made of, we can pro-act and not react to the situation. When I am doing something, be it cooking for Chula and Mieja’s birthday party or even day to day dinner/lunch I always do it with great secrecy. When friends offer help I turn it down and when the R asks me what my plans are, I invariably bite his head off. This has created unpleasantness between R and I in the past. My intentions were definitely not to hurt him and keep him out of the whole jing-bang-jix. Introspection revealed that I am person who keeps improvising things till the very last minute or wait for inspiration to hit me and do things the very last minute. So when he asks me whats up and if he can help, I get irritated with myself for not having anything solid to offer and misdirected anger lashes out. OK, now that I have illustrated the value of introspection with a suitable example, let me move on.
Introspection in this situation led me to believe that:
(1)I believe food is the gateway to culture. My kids growing up away from India only made me more determined to offer them proper South Indian food. My ideas of a culturally consistent lunch boxwent down the drain long time back. I compromised and send pasta and sandwich for lunch 3/5 days. But while eating at home, I wanted to stick to the traditional kootu, sambar, morkuzhambu, poriyal types. When Chula and Mieja say no to South Indian food, I get agitated because I equate it as ‘no to food’ = ‘no culture’ = ‘people in India criticizing me as parent’ = ‘failed parent’.
(2)Children have to eat what was cooked for that particular day. Something that I clearly remember from my childhood is my father’s voice booming, “This is not a hotel. This is a home and you may not ask for a particular food in the very last minute and expect your order to be serviced.”
(3)I label children. There…. I said it and it is out in the open now. While I am at it I must also admit that I also judge adults. With adults and the children in school, these labels are okay because the relationship is non-personal in a certain plane. Actually at work these labels make my reflexes sharper and I am more efficient. Where as I treat my children as extensions of myself or even worse as versions of myself, UTBT Version2.0 or something. So I tend to be hard with the labels because the latest version must be devoid of all bugs, it has to be perfect right?!
(4)In my previous post Yaadayaada commented that I have patience and I made some generic quip. Actually, I do have patience. Unfortunately it is misplaced patience so it is hard for me to be consistently patient. Most of my patience is quantitative and not qualitative.
(5)I don’t know to ask, even if it is myself, for food. I eat when it is convenient not when I am hungry. I have always thought of it as flexibility, but no. It is my disability to perceive that food is for hunger. So inadvertently I have modeled to my children that food is a leisure activity. If you are too busy involved in some activity, food can wait. All along I have been thinking that they get in to one activity after another to avoid food. But it is not the case. They haven’t given enough importance to food to make a plan to avoid it. They have a list of exciting things in their agenda and food break is just an inconvenience. I have to thank COS for this thought process.
(6)I feed them because it is in my to-do list. I look at it as a chore to be done before I have to go on to the next bullet item on my list.
(7)Last but not the least, I over analyze things. Some thing you all are aware of by now.
So the problems are/were not enjoying the food, tantrum for poori or something exotic in the last minute, food shoved in while the said children were distracted with TV etc.
Some of the problems self solved and I had to put my foot down for certain things. Watching TV while eating went out the window and in to the trash during summer vacation. For a while TV lunches/dinners were perfect because they would eat by themselves. Then it came to a stage where I had to pause the TV if they forgot to take the next spoonful or if they just sat with mouthful of food forgetting to chew or to swallow. Before I knew, I was feeding them with TV on. If I am doing the feeding, I might as well do it without TV! So I said no TV while eating. Initially there were cries of disappointments, but it quickly died down because we started doing family style sit down lunches/dinners or picnics in our backyard(it was summer an was perfect for picnics). Chula and Mieja are used to family style eating at school. The kids set the table with table cloth, placemats, napkins diluted apple/orange juice, water, silverware, plates, centerpiece from their garden, salad from their garden, bread and invite other children to eat. So we did the same at home. They would set the table/picnic mat, run out to the garden and get some flowers, place them in a vase for enjoying while eating and we would make some lingonberry juice(from IKEA, yum!).
This culture of the whole family eating together has primarily taught me to respect my food. Hopefully it would do the same to my children. I am trying to model that food is a not just an extrenal need, but to some extent a bonding process that brings the whole family together. This addresses introspection#5.
Also they started getting involved in food preparation over the summer break. I would plop one child on the counter or put a step stool over the sink. They helped/watched/played but whatever they did, they did get a vague sense that food does not magically appear. It takes time and effort to cook. So Chula now changed her request from, “I want poori now” to “Amma, can we make poori for dinner on Sat?”. This works well with my introspection #2 and tantrums for exotic food.
With respect to introspection #1, I had to make compromises. I still offer them South Indian food, but the twist is I offer it like they like it. They like their rice plain, white with ghee on top, no nonsense mixed in. So plain white rice it is with veggies on the side and a teeny serving of sambar kind of stuff in the teeniest cup you have ever seen, also on the side. This plate comes with the condition that they cannot say no without tasting the food. They have to take one taste for every birthday they have celebrated so far.
As to introspection #6, all said and done, for a mother feeding the children IS a duty. It would be ideal if it is not a chore. Right now I am not doing anything to address it directly, but hoping the other things will indirectly contribute to this.
I am working on making my patience qualitative and consistent and on taking things on their face value. If they say no, it is just a no with no strings attached. It is nothing personal. I simply have to travel back in time and remind myself that I have had days when the food simply wouldn’t go through my throat and the mere thought of it made me gag. As to the appreciations from people from India, well, I know that my close relatives have confidence in my parenting skills. So, I must not bother about the ramdom comments from people who meet me in passing. Sometimes people say stuff just for the lack of things to make a conversation. In this ear, out that ear, makes the world a much better place at times.
If the food is on the plate for more than 45 min, it is dead. It is my cue for asking them to clean up. I try encouraging them to finish their plate, but if it is not done, its better to end it in the best of terms. I get “Hey, I called it quits” kind of silly closure.
Lastly the bribes. Of course there are bribes. Sometimes I read a book for them while they are eating. Sometimes I tell them stories. Sometimes I tell them that we are going to eat how I ate when I was a child and was no summer vacation and mix the food, make it in to balls and put it in their palms and add a story to go with it. This spiced up with plenty of “Oh! my goodness, you muscles look very strong. Did you finish all your veggies by any chance?”, “Oh! your eyes are so shiny, look at your skin it is glowing, did your hair just grow?”….and the likes of it.
BTW, should I categorize this as mommy development instead of child development???
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16 Responses for "The Art Of Eating –II"
UTBT, you rock! this post is a primer for everyone and anyone having ‘parental power struggle’ problems, desi or non, food or otherwise. the way you introspect and break it down like this, it doesn’t seem as complex as it is.
#3 resonated most with me, and a lot of 1 and 4 I see in my actions food related or otherwise.
thanks for putting it the way you did – and here’s hoping that you’ve seen the last of the food battle.
UTBT SAYS: Thanks K’s mom. Actually things are looking up, not because the kids have declared that they are foodies, but because my reality tunnel is chaging. After 45 min the monster does lift its head and say CLEAN UP NNNNNNOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW. We will get there, I am sure.
Beautiful post UTBT. You amaze me. I already am planning some changes at home based on what you have written. I know C is too young for all this, but I am talking about changes the mr and me have to make.
One suggestion – you could tell Chula and Mieja to decide what they want to eat one day of the week and also help you cook the same. Or rather, tell them that saturday dinner will be made by them with help from you and R. It would bring a big sense of achievement and they would also not want to waste what ‘they’ made!
UTBT SAYS: Thanks for the suggestion Reva. We do Chula cooking and Mieja cooking, but it is on demand right now. Once a week, its your turn will most definitely work for Mieja. With Chula, it has to be a fancy thing. If it becomes a routine she would disappear 🙂
WOW ! You seem to have introspected for me too … I was nodding my head in agreement throughout the post …
I see that you are putting in a lot of effort in this but want to give R as much credit as well. He has been supporting you in those picnic dinners and no TV rules.
Btw, loved Reva’s comment…. I have tried it with Cantaloupe … has worked … but lack time / energy / patience to do it regularly .. I think I must do it more regularly.
UTBT SAYS: Thanks CA. R is very supportive. He gives a lot of weight to my methods, but is not a totally ‘yes, yes, whatever you say’ guy. He brings his own perspective to parenting.
Such a thought provoking post UTBT! And the thing about Qualitative patience is so very much true. Now how do we, extend these good eating practices at a shool setting away from home? M and N are okay at home most of the time, but invariably come home with a half finished lunch box (Amma bell adichiduthu/kasakaradhu/uraikaradhu/pulikaradhu) with one of the above excuses. Bribes work well for them at home. Do add some pointers on how you handle that.
UTBT SAYS: School?! With all the social interaction going on? So I am kind of thinking one handful of whole grain cereal in the morning, peaceful dinner time at home, good enough for me.
Another reason for me not being bothered about school time is because they always have open snack bar in their school – whole grain cracker/bagel bites/wheat bread, cheese, fruit and diluted juice. Children can eat any time they want. They eat, clean their dishes and put them in a plastic tub, sweep crumbs etc. Many times peer pressure works. The “gang” would chow and chat and I know something healthy is going in.
Well….one could do a chart and make them put a smiley face or a sad face depending on how they do with their lunch box. I mean if it is your kind of thing.
Stickers, rewards smileys….it will not work for me.
Wow, it must take a lot of courage to introspect that deeply, AND put it up on the blog for everyone to see! Congratulations, UTBT.
UTBT SAYS: Thanks hon.
Thanks UTBT. I have learnt a lot from this post and will try to incorporate a few in our routine – the first being getting KT to eat by herself and no more TV while eating.
UTBT SAYS: Sending lots of patience and strength your way.
Wow wow wow UTBT! Just the post I needed at just the right time. We just got done with a very unpleasant tabletime and I am still reeling from the irritation of it. Your solution to introspect was so darn good and I must hitch on your ride and say most of your points applied to me as well, esp. # 1. My god! How it applied!
So let me get this straight….
Family meals, focussing on bonding.
45 minutes of eating time.
No means no. Nothing personal meant by it.
And trying everything, at least a taste.
I did my compromise with Akhil’s school lunches. I give him exactly what he thinks he will be able to finish on his own in 15 min, not what I think he should have. And finishing his food gives him a healthy sense of achievement which is a motivator in itself.
We have slacked big time on the family meals, what with the husband’s chaotic work schedules. But this is inspiring to try and work that in and make an effort for it. We so easily get carried away in the currents of old habit.
15 min????? 15 min???? I am appalled. Seriously. My Chulawouldn’t have even opened the zipper to her lunch bag in 15 min. After 45 min she says, “Oh, I didn’t get to that box and so-and-so asked me to clean up.” I have to point out that I send ONE box, well with small compartments in it, but it is ONE box. When I ask her what she was doing, she says in her most animated voice, “Amma, you have GOT to hear the funny story M was telling us. It was so funny, it just cracked me up….” For a min I forget if I am talking to a child or some one my age and she slips away. Mieja would say, “Well amma, the point is, I tried one vaai and I decided that I am not going to eat it.” She is 3 going on 133.
Yes, R misses the family dinners too. But dinner time is at 6.45PM, except on wed. Some days he will join us while we are half way through. Some days he misses it. *Sigh*
That reminds me…when I read what you said about bribes…
This point has always confused me. How much to resort to bribes. How often to do it? Is it always a good source of motivation to be striking a deal? It makes me very uncomfortable sometimes when I have to resort to bribes, but there seems no way of working around it. Like today, I told him that if he didn’t finish the little that was on his plate, he would have to forgo move night tonight…*sigh*
UTBT SAYS: I remember what I read about the works of Magda Gerber. She says, we pick up the child when he cries and condtion him to respond to something and later blame him for it. If a child is crying, a parent whose priority is food immediately feeds him. A parent whose priority is cleanliness wil change nappy. A parent whose priority is rest put the baby down for a nap. A parent whose priority is being active, plays and entertains the child So the child gets conditioned to the extent it becomes a reflex. According to her is it mostly nurture that makes the child the way he is. So she says, ‘ASK THE CHILD’, this advice for a new born baby who is hardly a month old.
I am rambling ain’t I? The point I am trying to make is, I do bribes because it is convenient for me. Then comes a point where bribes are the norm, boring, routine. Then I have to step up the bribes or cut priveleges. I dig a hole for myself. There are some days, when I simply don’t have the energy, so I do bribes.
If I had been extremely irritated by dinner drama, I would most likely say no TV or cut some priveleges. But I hate to make my child feel as if I have robbed them of something. They would definitely make me feel so, with all the natak, water works and what not. So I would say, “If you are so jumpy I am going to think that you want to go out and jump after dinner. You give me the impression that, you would better jump instead of watching TV, which is fine by me.” If she says, “No I want TV”, I would say, “Since you are having a hard time finishing your plate, let me help you. If TV is that important, let us finish what you are doing and then go watch TV.” This is where the bribe would come in on the tired days. If I have the energy, I would say, “With every vaai, I am going to see how you start glowing” etc.
Although I must say, it works depending on Chula/Mieja’s mood, depends on how their day was. Works 100% of the time at school though.
Having followed your blog for so long time, I know that you have a lot of patience and since in the first of “Art of eating” you had started with a school setting.. I just wanted to say this.. I thought for a long time before posting this.. Hope you take it in the right spirit
Abi’s school has something called Observation day where the Parents can sit in the class and observe the child and the class the whole day. At the end of the day, I asked Abi how come you are so nice in the class and listen to what Harini Mam asks you to and also finish lunch in 25 minutes. She just said, “Amma because it is SCHOOL and not HOME” So what works in school wouldn’t work at home and what works for a TEACHER won’t work for a PARENT
Also, sticking to South Indian food in the U.S of A sounds rather tough.. you could relax it to festival days or once in a week and eat the nutritious american food
UTBT SAYS: Kowsalya, you are 100% right. What works in a school setting does not work at home. A teacher asking a child to do something is more effective than what a parent asks. Thats why in my previous comment to Tharini, I ended it with, “Works 100% of the time at school though”, meaning, when I paraphrase or give choices, the children in my class listen to me and the same for Chula and Mieja with their teachers.
However the problem, that got me thinking, w.r.t my children was their attitude to food, be it South Indian or American. I strongly suspect even if I give them sandwich, mac and cheese, pasta and noodles, on a daily basis, after the fascination wears off and the exotic food becomes routine, the boredome would set in and I have to run behind them like Annapoorni, with a bowl and a spoon as a constant fixture to my hands. So there is something deeper that I needs to be addressed.
Did I give you the impression that I cook only South Indian at home? Did I come off as a person who wants both the convenience of America and the culture of India 🙂 The one part of the day they are offerred SI food is dinner. Postponing that to festival days will not work for me, because I will be rolling on the floor craving for rice. Rice, rasam, idlis, these are my soul food. When I say I/my, I am talking for R and I. Cooking two different meals, one for the kids and one for the adults is out of the question.
In a way, I want them to have Indian culture, not for my convenience or to show off to the world. But because it is a part of them and they need to know what they are made of. As is all children have identity crisis during adolescence. Not just desi kids in pardes, but ALL. They are breaking out of the image of “so and so’s daughter/son” and are defining themselves for the sake of themselves. The kids growing away from home land need to know their roots in order to understand themselves, otherwise the term ABCD will come true. I am seeing people of other religions, countries, languages hold on to their religious belives, food habits, language, dressing style etc and enforce it on their kids. Though the children think of it as a hinderence while growing up, it is beneficial to them in the longer run.
Eating SI food once a day is our family value and I do not agree that I must postpone it to festivals. Kowsalya, while I apreciate your perspective, loved the considerate tone you used to comment and understand the intentions with which you commented, it will not work for me.
What an amazing, honest analysis.
I also loved the previous post.
In general, when my kids were small, I found that the more relaxed I was about anything, the less of an issue it became. Of course this doesn’t always work:)
Take care.
UTBT SAYS: Thanks Dipali.
What seems like a mountain now will feel like a mole hill when something else replaces it. Its funny-ha?! But at the heat of the moment, to realize this and relax….that is what I need to learn.
I agree UTBT… anything that becomes a routine turns out to be a chore (even I feel it when I h.a.v.e to cook every single day!).
CA, you made my day!!! 🙂 Truth is that the comment came out of personal experience. As a child I was quite picky with food and have spent many evenings finishing up the lunch that my mom packed. Once I started cooking (when I was 8 or so), things changed. I guess what helped was the fact that my parents made it a really big deal. They loved what I made and told it to everyone who came home. Even now, I feel that my love for cooking (and food) stemmed from that!
UTBT SAYS: OK. I will get those children some cooking lessons. If they really like cooking I can take an early retirement from my kitchen duties.
What a wonderful post. I have a 5 years old and a one year old girls and my first one is like yours exactly same talk about the school lunch time. Since I work full time get home at five and I am not sure I have 45 minutes for dinner time then home work and her bed time is 8 pm. Since she is very hungry by dinner time I just feed her and done with it within 15 minutes. I promise am not making same mistakes with the second she seemed to be grapping and eating everything so let see how it goes.
The best thing you need is a help from the husband where mine can’t stand them cry. So I am not able to make any decision regarding dinner. She is a healthy girl so I am not worried for now but she doesn’t eat any veggies (that is the biggest concern now).
I know I am rambling but this post is an eye opener for me and I see most of it is our fault we turn the TV on in the beginning and we made different food for her when she refused. You know what the excuse was, when the daycare provider told me she didn’t eat anything today so only thing was in my mind was to fill her tummy so we did anything we could to fill her tummy.
Thank you for taking your time to write and best of luck.
K
UTBT SAYS: It’s hard K. Good luck to you. For all the obsession, these issues might sound less important later:)
Ain’t it funny?
This is your bestest post yet, me thinks. Your other posts are as much well researched, articulate and informative as this one, but I think the simplicity of this post beats it all. Or maybe we readers identity with this one the most 😉 In reality, it might not be as easy as it sounds, but the way you have laid it down, it sounds doable and boosts our confidence to give it a try. Here, eating is not so much of an issue, however am going to try this approach in the whining/tantrums arena, something that seems to have sprung overnight. Lets see.
Am sure you are more short of time than topics to blog, but just in case this is in your agenda of to-do posts, do share pointers on handling terrible twos and terrible fours/fives(Never knew something like this existed) at the same time..
And as the previous commenter said, thanks for doing this much needed parenting-for-dummies service. Very much needed and very well appreciated 🙂 🙂
UTBT SAYS: Ok. You have officially scared me. Will explain in a separate post why 🙂
Lovely post. Off topic: I did that post on alternative schools finally and it includes a bit by Shripriya that you might want to read…
UTBT SAYS: Thanks Ra. Will chk out your post first thing tommorow morn.
I didn’t even know you are back to blogging. Was checking your old site for updats, even a week ago.
Chanced upon your comment on Tharini’s latest post and clicked on utbtkids and landed here.
I feel cheated, okay?
🙂
Now, let me go back to reading you…gosh, I have so much to catch upon.
UTBT SAYS: Cheated – huh?! Sorry dear. Seriously didn’t occur to me. Now that you are here we must do something ant the Green Sulk Club. K’s mom seems to be having a smooth time! 🙂
Hmmmm…this post gets me thinking. All of the points make a lot of sense, yet at the same time, I am being a chicken and taking the easy way out, by allowing TV while eating and me feeding him. As for the choice of food I am like you…not interested in making 2 meals for 3 people. Whatever the cuisine he has to eat it…I see it as a respect issue (respect for the person who made it) rather than choice.
For Naren he is the same when it comes to eating both at home or in school. Sometimes it is a lot better at home since I feed him. Right now, I am at a point where, I don’t want each meal time to be a war of egos, rather a pleasant time which he will remember. I console myself saying that he is still at a stage where he can be changed in a short time. Maybe that time is running out too 🙂
I guess what works for one person doesn’t necessarily work for another too. Lets see…but I do agree completely about the point about misplaced patience.
UTBT SAYS: Shobs, you are not answerable to any one. Given a child, a situation, a day, if the mother chooses to certain things a certain way, so be it. At the end of the day, it must have been a good day for you and your child. Thats what matters. So you choose to feed your child. So what? Don’t feel guilty about it. After all, all parenting decisions are taken in the best interest of the child.
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