30 Aug 2007
This is a very philosophical discussion. Some say that sound is defined as the vibration of air as picked up by a human ear. Since there is no one to receive the vibrations there is no noise. Some say that there is a noise irrespective of a person being present or not.
My take on this is, is this even a discussion? Of course there is a noise. In tamil there is an adage, ‘Poonai kannai moodinal ulagam irundu poidadthu’. (Word for word translation: If a cat closes it eyes, the world does not go dark. What it means: Just because you block yourself out of something, it doesn’t mean that it does not exist).
In case you are all wondering why all this sudden spark on philosophy, it was something Mieja did. She is totally in to playing peek-a-boo. I kind of started the peek-a-boo thing for her. She was about 6 or so months, was able to sit in her high chair. But she used to hate it if I left her in her high chair by herself. Even if I had to grab a paper towel from the kitchen, she used to scream her head off. So I would walk to the kitchen door and say peek-a-boo, then would hide behind the kitchen wall, do peek-a-boo a few times, then quickly grab my paper towel or whatever that I was looking for and come back to her. According to her I was just playing with her, I was never gone. It is now a favorite game of hers. She would look at me, give me her most enticing smile, walk to the nearest corner, every now and then checking if I am still looking at her, disappear around the corner, then pop her head out and say ‘Ummm’. Some times she would pitter patter to the kitchen, stand clutching the doorframe and would sway her whole body from one feet to another simultaneously nodding her head from side to side. It is her version of peek-a-boo.
Three weeks back, I was washing my hands on the bathroom sink, she came running in to the bathroom, ran past me in to the standing shower stall, climbed in to it, clutched the corner and was playing peek-a-boo with me. Well the funny part was that, the shower stall was completely glass! So I laughed and said, “Mieja, I can still see you even if you think you are hiding.” She was just having a ball, she didn’t care.
But I started thinking about what was going on in her mind, does she even realize that if she can see me through the glass, I can see her too. The thought process then leaped on to ‘how much children learn and how fast they learn’, then to ‘how exactly that connection takes place in their brain’, then to the trees falling in Godforsaken places and finally ended up constructing a post around the bits and pieces that sparked in my mind. Okay it was not exactly a spark, more like dim sputtering light bulb.
14 Responses for "If a tree falls in the forest and if there is no one to hear it, does it still make a noise?"
Erm what about one way glasses? One where Mieja can see you but not the other way around?
This was clear galss Poppin’s mom. But interesting scenario. First Mieja learns that peopel can see both ways through galss, then she sees me through a one way glass and wonders why I can’t see her…hmmmp…..
this is cute 🙂 I am not sure if Meija is doing this yet, but I’ve seen some kids (mine incl) close their eyes when they don’t want something – like food – which means if I can’t see it, it doesn’t exist!
Very cute…yeah one wonders about the connections they make…
Kutti boy just loves the kaname game. He used to say “Kaamane” for kanume…he loves it so much that while I feed him his lunch he will take a piece of paper or tissue and cover the picture of a baby in the book and say “kutti baby kanume”…”Theriyaveeeille”! And then move the tissue and say “Adakke”!
I love this whole statement about no one to hear it , was there a noise or not…
ok, should not go on and on in your comment space about it – if I have more to say on it, will post in my blog space.
Kodi’s mom, Chula did it and still does it, if she does not acknowledge the presence of something, then it doesn’t exist, so it does not concern her. But Mieja is pretty strong headed, if she does not want the food, she looks us in the eye and shakes her head. If we persist then she shakes her head really fast and bends down and burries her head in her lap.
Noon, that is so cute. Are you guilty of correcting Kaamane to kanume? Why did you do it, I am mad at you. 🙁
how do they make the connection? – such an interesting question!
on a slight tangent — kids learn to move because it gets them things they want, they learn to talk so that they can communicate and get their needs met. but what motivates the development of a sense of humour? as far as i know no other animal except humans have this sense – is a manifestation of the development of intellect and the ability to ‘see’ beyond the obvious? to aid social interaction? why do we have it?
very cute..my 17 month ols daugther does something really cute..when we play peek-a-boo or catch-catch, she runs away from me while am chasing her and on not finding a suitable place to escape, she simply covers (read hides) her face with her hands.
PS: I have been a lurker on your blog for sometime now..and I simply love the way you write..
~Su
Choxbox, we had this discussion in my class. The consensus was that sense of humor is definitely a form of superior intellect. We all have it, in varying degrees. The variation in degree is strongly influenced by life experiences and role models.
In Hindu spirituality they classify pleasures in to two types – small/material pleasures and higher/ulterior pleasures.
In my view, things like motor development and communication give them the material pleasures. But things like sense of humor does not give immediate material benefits, but a higher pleasure like optimist outlook of life, sense security, self esteem.
Why we have it? It is our greatest hidden gift. One can discover it any point of time in order to better our lives.
Su, welcome here and thanks for the compliment. That is so cute, she hides her face, thinking that she is hiding!!!
Oh thats soo cute. And a very interesting spark that. Very thought provoking.
so basically the sense of humour is in the upper echelons of maslow’s hierarchy!
your classes sound so interetsing – lucky you!
Choxbox, classes are definitly interesting, but totally depends on the prof. This particular one was fun, none of us were ever afriad to share any information in class, for we kind of knew that we will not be judged for what we say. The other class we took with this, the prof was a dragon lady! Even me, who talks non stop, trying to bounce off ideas and put out feelers was afraid to open my mouth. Cos sometimes she would expect a particular answer and if you don’t say it, kind of snap at you! Coem on this is not a math class to say 2+2=4. There can be different answers depending on one’s perspective. Imagine the plight of the shy ones! In one class, she pointed one of the students and said, ‘Yes, what were you going to say for {this}?’, the student replied, ‘….I wasn’t going to say anything’ and she says, ‘Well, think of something to say, you have 2 mins’ ans stood there staring. Talk about spotlight.
I come across the same situation with kiddo. He hides in front of me, but just lies down and bends his head in such a position that he can’t see me..but he thinks even I can’t. Even he does the same with glass doors… If we could really make out what kids think..life would be even more interesting 🙂
This is th efirst time to your blog.. nice one 🙂
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